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03/18/2007 9:34 PM Alert 

 

This appears at http://www.taylorhicks.com/ first item in the news section. Pretty drastic step for managment to take rght on one of their artists websites.

 

 

Discussion about this elsewhere concludes that the main difference between this and the efforts on Kat's behalf is that the radio people are actually interested in promoting Katharine and like the song while with Taylor they have the opposite feeling.

 

Anyway, this isn't meant to discourage anyone but it is good to learn from the dark side of street team efforts and not cross that line between helping Katharine and hurting her by being too annoying!

 

 

Just To Feel That Way Efforts


"While we all deeply appreciate and welcome the support for Taylor Hicks coming from the Soul Patrol and directed at radio, it's important that the line between persistence and annoyance isn't crossed. Many of our programmers are now feeling overwhelmed and inundated by incessant demands for airplay, and we are now facing a "law of diminishing returns" scenario, where programmers are being more SCARED AWAY from supporting "Just To Feel That Way" than they are being encouraged to support it. To be honest, we get nearly daily complaints from radio asking us as a record label to "Call off the Soul Patrol".


Years of experience has shown us that the best way to "help the cause" of Taylor at radio is NOT by sending emails and/ or flooding the phone lines, but rather, if you want to help, feel free to write a good old fashioned letter and pop it in the mail, thanking those stations in your markets that ARE supporting the record, and politely requesting it from those that are not. One letter per fan is more than enough.

it should also be noted that Taylor's primary focus, and the format that has been MOST receptive at radio thus far, are the mainstream AC stations. a list of those stations is available at many of the fansites and we can help supply proper mailing addresses to make sure that any letters written are pointed in the right direction. Again, we welcome the support and enthusiasm, but rest assured that the label and the management team are both definitely on the case, and there isn't a programmer out there who isn't aware of Taylor, his tour, his current single, and the strength and loyalty of his amazing fans.=

Once again, thank you all so much for your efforts - we thank you and Taylor thanks you. Let's continue to focus our efforts in the best way that we can to support Taylor."

 

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03/19/2007 12:42 AM Alert 

Well it's pretty obvious that Top 40 stations aren't going to be that receptive to Taylor.  He doesn't fit what they do.  I remember Kat's interview with Romeo at Z100 when he continually said, "You certain have the look, Katharine."  And that IS a part of it when it comes to Pop music even though you are only hearing the songs on the radio.  Mainstream Pop is about more than just music (that should be obvious given some of the things that hit and some that don't...it's not always about the best songs) and frankly Taylor's got nothing to offer those kinds of radio stations.

Maybe, maybe 10 years ago when it wasn't as beat-driven or urban-leaning.  I think Kat explained this awhile ago about how Pop music has changed and she had to go along with that which is part of the reason her record is the way it is.

Taylor's stuck on AC radio and that isn't the greatest format to be stuck on.  Now Katharine could have some AC hits probably with her ballads but she can have them crossover to HAC/POP if she's already established herself on those stations.  They'll be receptive to songs from her if she's already proven popular on their stations.  If she started out with "Ordinary World" she gets no traction on the Z100's of the world.  But maybe down the line she could do "Home" and get it played on those stations because they've been playing Katharine McPhee songs for months and they've done well.

Anyway...radio stations want to be associated with "hot" stuff.  Taylor may have won Idol but he doesn't appeal to the demographics that listen to Top 40 radio.  Katharine & Chris do.  And that's what you are seeing on the radio airplay charts.


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03/19/2007 10:52 AM Alert 
sjw, what are Eliott's chances, currently #60 on Top 40 and #96 on HAC for Waiting for You. Of course, KIIS-LA has been playing his song.
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03/21/2007 7:36 PM Alert 
I better stay out of here before I get banned for "other contestant bashing"...

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03/22/2007 7:01 AM Alert 
Posted By Sammer_Bammer214 on 03/21/2007 7:36 PM
I better stay out of here before I get banned for "other contestant bashing"...



kiss sucks they should play kat

she is their home town girl

no offense to elliott but kat desserves it!


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03/22/2007 10:33 AM Alert 
and about taylor i believe karma is the word
his fans maybe making fun of kats sales decrease now buthe is what 198 on billboard
just saying
hopefully kat wond decrease too much anymore
ive always felt she was at a disadvantage realeasing at jan
hopefully her sales stabilize soon and she sells consistently 10k per week that she can go gold
that would be great!
Robin thicke wasnt doing to well also at the start of his cd because of his single
but when he released the right single his cd shot up the chart
i believe the same will happen to kat when she releases open toes

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03/22/2007 11:47 AM Alert 
Taylor won American Idol. Isn't that silly? What's going on this year with the Sanjaya issue is a testament to the fact that you don't have to be talented to make it on Idol. The audience wasn't aware of it's manipulative powers the first few seasons, so we got real stars.
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03/24/2007 2:06 AM Alert 
Posted By zzyzx on 03/22/2007 11:47 AM
Taylor won American Idol. Isn't that silly? What's going on this year with the Sanjaya issue is a testament to the fact that you don't have to be talented to make it on Idol. The audience wasn't aware of it's manipulative powers the first few seasons, so we got real stars.


There were a share of "controversies" in prior seasons too.  I don't think it ever affected who won the show until last year though.  I think it's pretty obvious Chris got lost in some crazy voting schemes by the Soul Patrol coupled with the judges inspiring Kat Fans like crazy by sending her home on Elvis night.

I saw an article about all the oddities in Idol voting throughout the years.  I don't know if it was because of anything organized back in the day though.  I'm watching the first season of Idol on the weekend reruns.  That Nikki McKibbin knocks out Tamyra Gray in Top 4 week is sooooo ridiculous.  It's plainly obvious that the finale should have been Kelly & Tamyra although Justin was good.  I wonder if Simon's constant raving over Tamyra hurt her.

The whole thing is a little crazy.  You think they might had some kind of judges' safeguard portion to the voting to make sure a Sanjaya thing doesn't happen in the future.  Doesn't Dancing With The Stars factor in the judges' opinions with America?  Maybe they should do that on Idol.  Probably would have made Katharine go home Top 4 week but...


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03/24/2007 12:12 PM Alert 
I really really do not like Taylor, and I know AI season 5 is long gone but he really shouldn't have won American Idol. I was starting to think the reason why he won because Simon hates him so much. That may not be it though. I hope Kat's album sales won't go down too much. This promotion in the movie theatres has got to help her somehow. I'm going to say one more thing before I say something that I'll regret. lol. To be completely honest, I forgot Taylor even existed until I see my downloads of American Idol or if I see my downloads of the tour videos or any events where she appeared with him. Is that what # he's at now? #198? Ha! No way Kat will get down that low.

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03/24/2007 2:11 PM Alert 
Posted By sjwolves on 03/24/2007 2:06 AM
Posted By zzyzx on 03/22/2007 11:47 AM
The whole thing is a little crazy.  You think they might had some kind of judges' safeguard portion to the voting to make sure a Sanjaya thing doesn't happen in the future.  Doesn't Dancing With The Stars factor in the judges' opinions with America?  Maybe they should do that on Idol.  Probably would have made Katharine go home Top 4 week but...


I brought up that some time ago, but like someone else said, it is doubtful it a change in voting will ever occur.  Nigel likes to hear too much the sound of Ryan saying "America you cast xxx millions of votes!!!!"

But I couldn't agree more.  The way the voting works is definitely broken.  I don't know what the solution is exactly, but I think the producer of the show better have some roundtable discussions about it before the voting method makes a laughing stock out of the show.

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03/27/2007 3:16 PM Alert 
Every TV talk show, comedy show and all the celebrity news magazine shows are talking about the Sanjaya controversy. American Idol is big and powerful, but the bigger they are the harder they fall. No TV show is infallible.

Katharine's album WILL go down to #198 or worse, they all do. The name of the game is to keep it as high on the charts for as long as possible, but eventually they all run their course, even Carrie's Some Hearts. Taylor's just did its nosedive sooner than later.
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03/27/2007 3:19 PM Alert 
Carrie's album is still in the top 50... sure someday it might drop... when her next one comes out and rockets to #1... She is here to stay and hopefully Kat will be too but I'm nervous about it...
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04/01/2007 1:44 PM Alert 
Posted By sjwolves on 03/24/2007 2:06 AM
The whole thing is a little crazy.  You think they might had some kind of judges' safeguard portion to the voting to make sure a Sanjaya thing doesn't happen in the future. 



It's a little too late for any judges' safeguard, at least this season. It was they, in fact, who put him in the top 24 over other contestants who were, in my opinion, much more talented. And NOW they whine about it. It was all about ratings when they let him in, and it'll be about ratings when it blows up in their face. Let them squirm.

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