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28 Jan 2008 02:19 PM  

Got this from MOE123 at IDF. It isn't very flattering towards Kat but if true it explains a lot of what has gone on.

 

I didn't see anyone post this article so I thought I'd type up Kat's part. I don't have a scanner, but the article has a big pix of Kat, and smaller ones of Ruben and Taylor and Jordan. Under the title Fallen Idols it has a sub heading that says...As Kat McPhee's Career Stutters, OK! examines the Idol Alums in Crisis The article starts with...
The new year has not been kind to several American Idol alums. RCA Records has confirmed it has dropped idol season 5 runner up katharine mcphee, who is planning her february wedding to fiance nick cokas. But the move isn't all about album sales, a label insider confirms to OK!. "She's a bit of a diva, and from the minute she got into the studio she didn't want to listen to any of the producers, Simon, Randy or anyone who helped her get to where she is" says the insider. Katharine may have angered her boss, Sony/BMG chairman, Clive Davis, when she announced during an interview that she did not like her album's first single, "Over It" - a mistake that almost ended fellow Idol alum Kelly Clarkson's career. "You do not piss off Clive," the insider continues. "He has decades of success and experience, and she's publicly bashing him on song choice."
Katharine also seems to putting more time into bridesmaids than band members. Says the insider, "She's a bridezilla already! She's more interested in her wedding dress than music career, to be honest."


The article then continues with Ruben and Taylor's departure as well, but is not nearly as negative sounding toward them. They also discuss Jordan. It is somewhat disturbing to hear a label insider discussing her in this manner. Who knows how much is true, but it is highly unlikely for OK! Mag to misquote a 'label insider'.

 

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28 Jan 2008 04:07 PM  

Flattering, no. But no real damaging revelations, either.
For some reason It appears that this insider is going out of their way to spin this thing against Kat.

We knew Kat had issues with Clive and RCA, and was creatively "at odds" with them since the start. And while dissing "Over It " was not the best thing to do during a promotion campaign, it's hardly news.

And who can blame a girl for being excited over her wedding? Not me!

 

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28 Jan 2008 05:09 PM  
Bill, I agree. It is interesting that RCA is still trying to spin all this as being Kat's fault and justifying their decision to drop her. I guess that is protection against what could be seen as a huge blunder on their part in how she was handles by RCA. As has been said elsewhere how can you not market a woman that talented. that beautiful, and with a caring and lovable personality? RCA seems much more focused on Kat's departure than the others as well.

Although I think the great majority of us were a bit concerned when she dissed Over It it is interesting that it is brought up now by RCA. We all thought that Darth Davis was not at all happy with what this "little reality show star" said that questioned his omnipotence. He has proven to be a very vindictive man.
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28 Jan 2008 05:21 PM  

More from Moe123 about the article.

also, i looked at it again and there is a small little caption next to her picture that says...Katharine's departure has been confirmed by RCA Records. Her rep tells OK! that Kat's got big projects ahead, including the release of her new movie I Know What Boys Like.

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28 Jan 2008 05:27 PM  
The "Insider" has to to Spin a Story to help cover up the huge Blunder.What might that be ?
A little common sense will tell you what a bunch of Garbage this is.Katharine has other talent's other then
her Voice.They = one Person,and we all know who that is.God #2 {CD}?
Katharine's Film Career,Modelling and Charity Appearence's took up a lot of Energy and time.The President
insisted on her appearence on the Christmas Special.She places helping needy children before Money.
Do you really believe Randy Jackson would have any thing to do her if she was a Problem?
Nigel say's she will be on the AI this Season.Randy is Trumping CD on this.After they all heard feedback on the Kat and Elloit Duet,they [RCA/GOD#2} shot themself;s in the You Know Where.This 'Insider "could have made a killing leaking this Spin out over the past year,a little bit of Dirt every so Often.Did'nt happen,wonder why"This is the perfect time.
This is alll just my Opinon,But the Bottom Line is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ And Alway's will be and forget it.
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28 Jan 2008 06:05 PM  
LIke others in this thread have noted, there really isn't anything new here. I've heard it a thousand times; when a female has problems with producers, material or musical direction, they are called "Divas" and when the same thing occurs with a male talent, it is referred to as "creative differences".

RCA can try to spin it all they want, Kat is a tremendous talent and their loss is going to be someone else's gain.

Yeah, at this point, I would be preparing for my wedding too. What is she supposed to do? Sing on the corner of the street with a open hat to collect tips? I think most people that read that article will realize with all the good that Kat has done with her celebrity, that the statements contained within, are bad case of sour grapes and spin control. We know the truth.
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28 Jan 2008 06:33 PM  
I rarely put any faith into someone like "the insider"....especially when they have to preface their words with,"...to be honest".....that is a BS indicator for sure!How could this party presume to say that Kat is more interested in her wedding dress than her music career???Totally ludicrous and trying to justify the"diva"allegations.
We all know,Katharine is anything but a diva.And give the girl a break......she's in the process of preparing for one of the most important days of her life.....there are priorities.
One point is valid......I do recall Kat dissing OI and one of the ballads on her CD(OW or Home?).She did refer to the ballad as,"cheesy".Must admit,I was a bit taken aback at that remark.Possibly,Kat was disappointed that she was outvoted and a number of her favorite tracks did not make the CD.
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28 Jan 2008 07:22 PM  
Amazing, isn't it, that we never heard from any of the people she's worked with the past couple of years what a b!tch/diva she is. All we hear is the opposite, except from the usual suspects. So Taylor and Ruben get dropped, and Katharine "leaves RCA" or "goes her own way." The media seem to be on her side. So guess what? Goliath has to roar a little. We need some new news. Some real news.
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28 Jan 2008 07:28 PM  
regardless of if this is true or not, it doesn't matter. it will not affect her in any negative way because all of this stuff has already happened and kat is pretty much starting fresh away from RCA. and it will be apparent that it's for the best when her next album is successful and she starts getting movie deals left and right. :] im so over this whole thing of kat getting dropped hahahaha. and about her dissing over it and some ballads, ya bad idea during promotion but im sure kat can back up her words and she will love her new material...support it...and be successful and happy w/ it! at this point i guess im just looking forward and forgetting all the 'bad press' she has gotten. if anything people will hear her name more! gotta be optimistic and content w/ whats going on...GO KAT!
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28 Jan 2008 07:51 PM  
Could be a little slap. Most of the articles about her being dropped made the label look like they failed instead of Katharine. Very odd to quote Randy and Simon as producers too, kind of invalidates the whole article a bit. In all 6 Seasons, neither one of them have been involved at all with anyone's album.
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28 Jan 2008 09:04 PM  

It's a shame that any woman who speaks their mind gets called a Diva or the B word, when all  they're actually doing is just standing up for something they feel strongly about.  The tabloids thrive on negativity and they spin it to make the person sound bad, so consider the source.  Also, sure Kat may have bit herself in the butt for stating, "Over It," wasn't really her choice, but I admire her for that - it was a good way for her to part ways with the almighty RCA.  She's much better off now, and she'll be able to work with a new label that will fully back her and she'll have more of a voice in what music she wants to make.

 

 

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28 Jan 2008 09:23 PM  

I'm actually a bit surprised and disappointed with OK mag for being so harsh on Kat as they have been so supportive previously.  

Oh....and...to quote Randy Jackson who she "didn't want to listen to"...

He (Randy) expresses gratitude to Idol for bringing him together with Elliot Yamin and Katherine McPhee. "When people hear them sing on this track," Jackson declares of 'Real Love', "they're going to be completely blown away."

Oh right, Randy is grateful for the "Diva" KathArine?!  Puhleeeeeze!!!  

I really hope someone gets some coco-NUTS and comes out in support of Kat...she hasn't done anything to deserve this ugliness!   

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28 Jan 2008 09:43 PM  
Once she has something concrete to announce and we finally hear from her, and yes I miss her a lot, I think all this will just fade away. These stories will have a short shelf life if and when we hear real career news. I just can't wait to hear what those "big projects she has ahead" are finally!
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29 Jan 2008 08:04 AM  

We katharine fans sorta knew this was coming ever since Clive dissed her on Idol last season.However the millons of OK readers who aren't fans may take this article in a negative way?It may be important for Katharine or her management to come out with some positive news before the wedding to erase the negative thoughts that people may gather

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29 Jan 2008 08:25 AM  
Posted By Amanda on 01/29/2008 8:04 AM

We katharine fans sorta knew this was coming ever since Clive dissed her on Idol last season.However the millons of OK readers who aren't fans may take this article in a negative way?It may be important for Katharine or her management to come out with some positive news before the wedding to erase the negative thoughts that people may gather


I don't want to lump every OK magazine reader into a bin; but I think that most of the readers of that "rag" , if they believe what is printed there, aren't intelligent enough to "get" Katharine's music anyway, so no harm done!! 

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29 Jan 2008 08:47 AM  

I don't want to lump every OK magazine reader into a bin; but I think that most of the readers of that "rag" , if they believe what is printed there, aren't intelligent enough to "get" Katharine's music anyway, so no harm done!! 

 

GB, the concern may be that this article will be copied and spread thru other gossip papers and bloggers.negative publicity is not needed right now, especialy when the last news was her being dropped by RCA. I still say Katharine or her management should say something soon,preferably before the wedding

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29 Jan 2008 08:57 AM  
Posted By Amanda on 01/29/2008 8:47 AM

I don't want to lump every OK magazine reader into a bin; but I think that most of the readers of that "rag" , if they believe what is printed there, aren't intelligent enough to "get" Katharine's music anyway, so no harm done!! 

 

GB, the concern may be that this article will be copied and spread thru other gossip papers and bloggers.negative publicity is not needed right now, especialy when the last news was her being dropped by RCA. I still say Katharine or her management should say something soon,preferably before the wedding



I wouldn't worry too much about it, Amanda.  It was mainly filler for a slow news day.  It will be long forgottten in just a short time.  Nothing seems to dispose of bad publicity more than a good celebrity wedding!  By the time Katharine starts putting her career in the forefront again, this "little" article won't be remembered by most who read it.

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29 Jan 2008 10:34 AM  

 And now aol comes up with this:

http://television.aol.com/show/american-idol/65307/tv-show-features/biggest-idol-flops

This bugs me because I hope she isn't going from media darling to... well, whatever this sounds like. I'm used to the hating and snarkiness coming from the usual sources. Not this. (If this just shows the base page, she's #8.)  I know they're quoting VFTW, but still, they're perpetuating it.

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29 Jan 2008 11:28 AM  

Actually she is #4 on the biggest Idol Flops. She is the eighth page but #4 behind Justin, Constantine and Taylor in that order. What disturbs me the most is this comment.

Total sales: 366,000
Katharine's more famous for saying stupid things than selling records (though she's the seventh-best-selling 'Idol' loser). She dissed her first single and said she didn't care about singing because she could just pop out babies. She was just dropped from her label and was seen in photos with a big baby bump ... for a movie role she's shooting.


That type of press Kat has been immune to especially in the legit media. Forget the blogs but in the legit media she has been seen positively. Maybe this is piling on Idol as it starts to decline but this can start to gain a life of it's own if it isn't managed. I agree with Amanda that something needs to be addressed before the wedding preferably. And let's face it Kat isn't a big enough celebrity for a celeb marriage to mend this especially considering the particulars of this marriage which we don't need to rehash here.

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29 Jan 2008 11:36 AM  

I'm really sick and tired of the media playing up on how idol contestants have failed, they're only doing so because other networks and a lot of people in the industry, HATE American Idol.  The TV networks hate it because it's a ratings bonanza and the music people hate it because they feel it's a show that is a bunch of karoake singers.  Bottom line, us Americanos - love it, and we love the chance to get to know these individuals who make it week-after-week, and the chance to get to know a little more about them as they proceed in the competition.  We all  fell in love with Katharine the singer, the person, etc. because of this pop culture phenomenon (sp?).   But, like Simon says, "They are singers who came from a reality show, and trying to sell their music away from the show is a reality."   Sometimes people have it, sometimes they don't - I think Kelly, Carrie and Chris have done so well  because there was a need for that market.  Idol has yet to have a strong male winner that appeals to the masses, and they had that in Chris (who was to be the chosen one, until the KatPack voted their little fingers off, and got him booted in the 4th round )

But, no need to dwell on the negativity going around in the press and internet.  Let's be glad that it's not just Katharine they're mentioning, but TWO former AI winners!  To me, it's a bad reflection of the AI establishment and how they use these young men and women to make them a boatload of money during the AI season, but don't give them the full backing unless they fully cooperate with how Clive and Co. wants to market/sell them.  Taylor fought for what he wanted, so did Kat, not sure about Ruben, but they didn't want to be some manufactured pop star and a puppet.   Look at it as American Idol was a way for all of these guys to get their feet in the door and get some exposure.  I applaud Taylor and Katharine for sticking to their guns and fighting for what they wanted - if they both lost their contracts because of it, RIGHT ON for them - they stuck to their convictions and got away from the evil empire.   Good things come to those who wait and who are dedicated to their passions, so hang in there Kat fans and don't let the negative press bring you down.

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29 Jan 2008 12:21 PM  
What is a "Flop"
A flop Performs On Nationwide Television for the President And his Wife in a Command Performance.
A flop performs on World Wide Television Representing Disney Corporation.
A flop performs with Andre Boccelli
A flop is chosen for Movie Role's beating out hundred's of wannabe's .
A flop upstarts her own charitible foundation for helping under priviliged,disabled and sick children.
A flop fight's for what they believe in,not affraid to exert their opinionx
Most of all,a flop is a Young Women who Marries a Older Man and dosen'nt Compete with "Lindsy or Brittney.
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A flop get's picked by Randy Jackson to part of a Very Special Project he is Producing.
Aren't we all glad Katharine is a Flop.Can you imagine where she would be if she was --Successfull--WoW

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29 Jan 2008 01:14 PM  

don't worry, I WILL GET DON VITO TO TALK TO THESE *******, IF SHE IS A FLOP, THEN i AM THE POPE!

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29 Jan 2008 01:27 PM  
Posted By goodyatlanta@msn.com on 01/29/2008 12:21 PM
What is a "Flop"

Actually,  the use of  "flop" in the entertainment industry traditionally refers only to a lack of commercial success.  Nothing at all about talent, ability or potential future success. Yes, the world knows Kat "only" sold around 400K CDs worldwide, a number which would be a tremendous "hit" for any new artist. Only for the cookie-cutter, formulamatic, immediate gratification world of RCA and the American Idol machine would this ever be considerered a "flop".

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29 Jan 2008 02:15 PM  
What price"flop"?What a negative spin the AOL blurb put on Kat and whoever wrote it appears to be totally unsophisticated and immature!These so called writers love to participate in the continuing trend of comparing Idols and consequently passing judgement of their value based on units sold;the Idol meat market, so to speak!.The top sellers are in such a minority,that everyone else is designated a failure,despite of the other successes they have experienced!
We all know Kat has often been somewhat up front or frank with some remarks and that is part of her charm.She is definitely "not more famous for saying stupid things than selling records"....that is a base and ludicrous remark and the airhead who wrote it should be censored!
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29 Jan 2008 02:48 PM  
Keefir, though I agree with you completely, in this case what worries me is the "perception is reality" idea. These statements no matter how ridiculous are out there in the legit media and simply ignoring them or pointing out how ridiculous they are may not have much impact on that perception. However for Kat to speak on them serves no purpose either. What the best response to them is IMO is to have real career news that disproves them announced. And let the public see that the perception that they are creating here IS false as she does have a number of "big projects" ahead. Unfortunately until that happens we may be seeing more and more of these "piling on" type articles printed.
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29 Jan 2008 04:00 PM  
I still don't think there is a thing to really be upset over. For the most part, Kat has had pretty good press from day one, and reporters just love to bring somebody down when something unfortunate happens.

It's happened all before with many (if not all) celebrities. It's an occupational hazzard of the business, I am afraid. I'm certainly not going to "stew" about it. If this is the worst they can write about Kat, she is looking pretty good.
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